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Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 05:05:00 - [1] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced Every man and his dog has an xbox PS3......... not so much Mehà Last I saw any numbers, the 360 had 6% more units out there than the PS3 (53M vs. 50). So if ever man and his dog has an xbox, every woman and her cat has a ps3. hehehe Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 05:54:00 - [2] Originally by: Tinwe Linto snip I'm also aware that Dust is meant to appeal to an audience outside the EVE community; but I have to question the sanity of releasing another shooter whose only distinguishing feature is that you can interact with people you'll never meet. It seems like a catch-22; you want players to buy into the game, but CCP has delivered the game ono a platform where the most interested players, the EVE community, will have the least likelihood of being able to play. Expanding your target market is all well and good, but the strategy here is all wrong-it's putting the cart before the horse. You question the sanity in this decision? Do you posses any experience in the fields of managing a 600-head company or in marketing of software, games especially? Do you have any first hand experience of what is going on at CCP headquarters? Thought it.. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:22:00 - [3] Originally by: Tinwe Linto Originally by: Tres Farmer You question the sanity in this decision? Do you posses any experience in the fields of managing a 600-head company or in marketing of software, games especially? Do you have any first hand experience of what is going on at CCP headquarters? Thought it.. Sorry, I don't live in Iceland; I do have experience with marketing, though. Explain to me, then, why it is sane to ** off a large portion of your potential customers. Do you honestly believe the E3 demo caught that much attention? If you're going for the "diametrically opposed players," I don't think the demo was going to appeal to those. It wasn't the LAUNCH of Dust514.. it was just an announcement that it will come to the PS3 exclusively. If you're in marketing you should KNOW the difference. Also, they didn't ** off THEIR potential customers, as THEIR potential customers are PS3 owners that want to play an FPSMMORPG. Microsoft removed the XBOX owners from the equation, CCP wasn't at fault, except if you want to play Dust514 on MS-terms (CCP doesn't want you to play Dust on MS-terms). CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs. It's all there in plain straight facts. Why do you people don't get that and move on with your lives? Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Max Gades Originally by: Herping yourDerp Originally by: CLONE 9 Have PS3 = Happy Have xbox or pc = Mummy mummy they won't make the sky orange just for me and ohhhhh the sky, the sky is falling and my tears will drown us all. Help help I've just peed myself. I have a PS3 so my pants are dry. If only we could convert the angst on this forum to electricity, then the worlds power problems would be over. hi i announce a game 3 years ago every time i show it i show it on 360 with 360 controlers a 360 magazine writes articles on it i never say it wont be 360 during development i wait until 3 years later to say, oh yea next year the game comes out, its for PS3 only. it has nothing to do with what people *** about, they said dust wont be on PC years ago. quit crying about it. they have hardly if at all hinted at the game going to sony... then OH HEY SONY EXCLUSIVE. stab in the back is the only way to say it. when dust dies, and it will die, maybe CCP will admit they failed or at least figure out that a 360 version of the game might have lasted longer. unfortunately, knowing how gamers work, and i know how different consoles yield different gamers. PS3 kids are almost as bad as PC elitist.. they want the best graphics, dont and are more solo then team based. based on what i have seen, graphics are lacking the game was made for 360. its apparent. PS3 gamers want to ride solo. Dust looks like you need a team. PS3 gamers... well... it seems they don't like shooters as much as 360 gamers... yet again another awesome observation that i love plus 1! How so? All you can read there is biased ***ing of a XBOX owner that Dust won't come to his console for the foreseeable future.. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:39:00 - [5] Originally by: trader tom Bererund waahhh waaaaaaahhhh panic! PANIC! DON'T YOU L-I-S-T-E-N? P-A-N-I-C!!! Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Tinwe Linto Originally by: Tres Farmer It wasn't the LAUNCH of Dust514.. it was just an announcement that it will come to the PS3 exclusively. If you're in marketing you should KNOW the difference. Also, they didn't ** off THEIR potential customers, as THEIR potential customers are PS3 owners that want to play an FPSMMORPG. Microsoft removed the XBOX owners from the equation, CCP wasn't at fault, except if you want to play Dust514 on MS-terms (CCP doesn't want you to play Dust on MS-terms). CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs. It's all there in plain straight facts. Why do you people don't get that and move on with your lives? Their potential customers, until E3, were any people that wanted to play an FPSMMORPG, since it was not exclusive to the PS3 until they announced that. So, people on the Wii missed out on that one too I guess? Ya know.. when there was talk about HALO being created I wanted it. It was marketed for PC.. then MS grabbed the company and made it XBOX only. Was I miffed? Yes. Did it matter to MS or HALO? No. Originally by:** Tinwe Linto And it's CCP's prerogative to deny us playing on MS terms-I just think they'll find that playing on Sony's terms means a hole in their wallet. And you know that for a fact because? Originally by: Tinwe Linto Also: "CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs." I'm aware they decided not to put it on PC years ago, but might they not have changed their minds when the MS wouldn't play ball? They wanted additional, different customers to the ones they already have, playing their SpaceshipMMO. Originally by: Tinwe Linto That statement doesn't make sense to me anyway. Why would CCP remove potential customers? One: A console FPS player cant compete with a PC FPS player. Two: Console FPS market is bigger than PC FPS market. Three: no one tried to tie a MMORPG with a FPSMMORPG yet. Originally by: Tinwe Linto I understand diversifying, but the PC gamer market is large, so catering to both would have been more profitable than just catering to the PS3 market. see above.. Originally by: Tinwe Linto I would think that it was less about removing PC gamers from the equation than about the ease of preventing things like aimbots on consoles vs on PC's. I don't know why a company would choose to limit who it sells its product to, all that does is decrease revenue. CCP doesn't cater to the hello-kitten-online nor the WoW nor the browser market with Eve-Online. Your point being? Also, I can't buy a 20,000 dollar Ferrari or Lamborghini.. those companies must be daft to miss out on potential customers. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Shardivh snip Why? Becuase the PC is an indefinite platform. It will never go out of date, never be superceeded by an entirely new "thing." Consoles are. Regularly. And their backwards compatability always sucks. But now to not even develop it for both major platforms? (I get that microsoft is a pain in the ass, but come on!) So, you decide to continue developing a game for an aging, expensive console backed by a rubbish company. How much did they pay you CCP? I hope it was a lot. (Side question, do Sony even have any money left???) It is the twilight of the current generation of consoles life. DUST wont be released for some time, and its intent seems to be a big, ongoing game that lasts for a while (fat chance now). My prediction, by the time anyone puts a DUST disk into their PS3 drive, they will have a tech magazine on the floor next to them with "Playstation 4 launch date announced!" on the cover.snap So they put a DVD to the mag that let's you play Dust with the PS4? If the revenue comes from MT and subscriptions.. where is the problem to support the next gen PS, once it comes out? Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Dograzor Hmm... Looks like Ill need an PS3 for dust. Now wait, if this comes in 2012, won't we have a new console generation very shortly after that?? So... why PS3 and not PS4? Cause there is no PS4 yet? What would be the point of CCP sticking PS4 logos on their screenshots? Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Creetalor snipwhat you can not forgetthe player base for shooters is a lot larger on the xbox PS3 does not have many good titles for such a field that are exclusive and I am sure the majority of tose sales where also for the Blueray drive initially also noticing sales are in some cases behind 2 years. snap So the environment for FPS on PS3 isn't so competitive then? Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:48:00 - [10] 3rd time you post that and still here? Can't you just go? Wussie Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!

Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.09 01:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Whyther snip More than either console however, I want to understand why CCP chose to exclude it's biggest player base, the PC/Mac user? For the umptenth's time.. because they want to tap into another market (consoles) and the controller used there for FPS aren't competitive in comparison to PC+keyb+mouse (mediocre PC FPSer creams top console FPSer anytime). Balancing this would had been impossible, so they might as well forget about the console (casue people there don't log in to line up to be shot down all the time) or the PC version would suck donkey balls (to keep it in line with the console, no one would like to play it on PC). And with all the bots/hacks/macros around and people's will for meta gaming you can kinda see another con for Dust on PC. TL;DR: CCP wants consoles, environment isn't made for coexistence of PC/console FPS, PC gets dropped. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.09 01:49:00 - [12] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 09/06/2011 01:49:37 Originally by: Xenuria snip LuLzSec has something planned especially for DUST 514... I am a neutral party in this whole thing. So when the EvE Economy is full of Dust Players with 999,999,999.00 Isk and Super Speed I don't want to hear a single person ***** because you all brought this on yourselves. Not to worry then ..as it will fail anyway, right? Btw, didn't knew Dust was such a big fat target? Did I manage to miss the hype in the media? Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.09 05:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Xenuria Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Tu Ko Dust is using both Eve Isk and Microtransaction cash in its economy. We have already seen the lengths that 'hackers' will go to get passwords for Eve accounts, phishing mails and trojans. The pay off is when they sell Isk for real money, somewhere else. Now imagine if you are one of those with 'skillz' and on the same network there is both Credit Card purchases and Account information... all in plain text... Ok, so some standard account theft in other words? Meh. Tippia baby, I don't think you understand the gravity of this preposterous conundrum. PSN is going to be DIRECTLY linked to the TranQ Servers. That means a 1-1 Sharing of ALL information that eve players have. It's over man.. Game Over.. LuLzSec is going to hack the crap out of PSN and all the account information and passwords for all the eve accounts will be leaked also. Mark my words CCP will not soon recover from this pants on head decision. PSN doesn't need CC information from Eve players.. not even names and emails. If anything of that stuff is being hacked, it will be directly targeted at CCPs servers and not via the PSN. CCP will set up some API for the PSN to attach them console accounts to TQ and that's about it. Dust itself will be run on servers CCP will manage, not Sony. And as has been said above.. if you can't stand that, leave now. PS: you gotta show me where those hackers aim at tiny CCP for their 'collaboration' with Sony. If this train of thought would have any relevance Valve and some other bigger players than CCP would had been targeted by now for working with Sony. But go on, scream as long as you can. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!

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